Legislature(2003 - 2004)

05/10/2004 11:20 AM House FIN

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CS FOR SENATE BILL NO. 224(STA)                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     An Act  relating to  a minor  operating a vehicle  after                                                                   
     consuming  alcohol, to  a  minor refusing  to submit  to                                                                   
     chemical  tests,  and to  driving  during  the 24  hours                                                                   
     after  being  cited  for  one  of  those  offenses;  and                                                                   
     providing for an effective date.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
RICHARD SCHMITZ, STAFF, SENATOR  JOHN COWDERY, explained that                                                                   
SB  224 would  change Alaska's  law to  require that  stiffer                                                                   
penalties apply to people under  the legal drinking age after                                                                   
consuming  any  amount of  alcohol.    Under current  law,  a                                                                   
person under  21 years old, who  drives with a  Blood Alcohol                                                                   
Content (BAC) of  below .08, would receive a  charge of minor                                                                   
consuming and/or  minor operating a vehicle  after consuming,                                                                   
both of which are infractions.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
SB  224 applies  mandatory fines  and  community service  for                                                                   
minors to  drive after  consuming any amount  of alcohol.   A                                                                   
first-time  offender faces  a $500 fine,  which increases  to                                                                   
$1000  for  a   second  offense  and  $1500   for  additional                                                                   
offenses.      Community   service    requirements   increase                                                                   
similarly.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Schmitz continued, drivers  between the ages of 15 and 20                                                                   
years  old make  up  approximately 7%  of  the total  driving                                                                   
population.     That  7%  constitutes  14%  of   the  alcohol                                                                   
related  fatalities.    Zero  tolerance  laws can  act  as  a                                                                   
deterrent and dramatically help change the behavior.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CINDY  CASHEN,  EXECUTIVE DIRECTOR,  MOTHER'S  AGAINST  DRUNK                                                                   
DRIVING (MADD),  JUNEAU, explained that currently,  teenagers                                                                   
are being charged  with minor consuming charges.   The public                                                                   
defenders office  has indicated  that passage would  increase                                                                   
their workload.   She  thought that in  reality, most  of the                                                                   
minor consuming  charges already have  the right to  a public                                                                   
defender, which  would not significantly change.   Presently,                                                                   
time,  the fee  for  such a  charge  is usually  around  $250                                                                   
dollars, which to the offender is a joke.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Ms.  Cashen commented  that the  BAC level  usually create  a                                                                   
raise with each  charge and then the person  becomes familiar                                                                   
with  the system,  becoming  a high-risk  driver.   The  bill                                                                   
would detour them with the first  charge at $500 dollars, the                                                                   
second  charge  at  $1000  dollars and  the  third  at  $1500                                                                   
dollars.   That would  be an amount,  which would  affect the                                                                   
legal guardians,  providing an  opportunity for them  to talk                                                                   
about  the  situation.   Also,  the  community  work  service                                                                   
program  aspect is  very  important, as  it  would force  the                                                                   
teenager to work  in a program that deals with  the education                                                                   
of treatment and  intervention of alcohol abuse.   Ms. Cashen                                                                   
thought that  it would be effective  and urged that  the bill                                                                   
pass.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Stoltze asked  if the  proposed change  would                                                                   
alter eligibility  for first time youth offenders  being able                                                                   
to get  into the Youth Corp  program.  Ms.  Cashen understood                                                                   
that 14-16  year olds  would no longer  be eligible  for that                                                                   
program.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative Stoltze  asked if the increase  in the penalty                                                                   
would create  any barrier to that  program.  Mr.  Schmitz did                                                                   
not know,  however, understood that different  municipalities                                                                   
addressed that  concern differently.  Representative  Stoltze                                                                   
asked that  a more definitive  answer be provided  before the                                                                   
House Floor session discussion.   Mr. Schmitz understood that                                                                   
the legislation  would  make the student  ineligible  for the                                                                   
Youth Corp program.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Representative Chenault  asked if the legislation  would only                                                                   
apply to a .02  BAC.  Mr. Schmitz stated that  it would apply                                                                   
if  the person  had  driven  within  a 24-hour  period  after                                                                   
drinking or  consuming alcohol and  that the BAC  level would                                                                   
not be the  only factor considered.   There would need  to be                                                                   
proof that the student had been consuming alcohol.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Vice Chair Meyer  pointed out the indeterminate  fiscal notes                                                                   
and  asked if  the  teenager would  be  eligible  for a  jury                                                                   
trial.    Ms. Cashen acknowledged that was  correct, pointing                                                                   
out that  most of  them are additionally  charged with  minor                                                                   
consuming,  which allows that  person to  qualify for  a jury                                                                   
trial.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Vice  Chair Meyer  noted that  he  appreciated the  community                                                                   
service aspect of the legislation.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Fate questioned  if  the  provision would  be                                                                   
waived  if drinking  were  done  at home  with  family.   Mr.                                                                   
Schmitz replied  that was  not included in  statute.   If the                                                                   
person were caught drinking illegally,  they would be guilty.                                                                   
Ms. Cashen  interjected that it  is legal to give  your child                                                                   
alcohol.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative  Fate  reiterated  his question,  asking  what                                                                   
would happen if there was an accident.   Ms. Cashen responded                                                                   
that they  would be  charged because  they  were a minor  and                                                                   
operating a motor vehicle while under consumption.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative Croft asked if  the "minor" as proposed in the                                                                   
legislation,  would  be under  21  years  old.   Mr.  Schmitz                                                                   
explained  that had  been discussed  in  the House  Judiciary                                                                   
Committee and  was a  "term of art"  and applies  to drinking                                                                   
and driving statutes.   In response to  Representative Croft,                                                                   
Ms.  Cashen added  that the  legislation  would increase  the                                                                   
penalties and  fines and would  add mandatory  community work                                                                   
service.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Representative   Joule  asked   if   the  community   service                                                                   
prevention  including   treatment  and  education   would  be                                                                   
mandatory.  Ms.  Cashen responded that the  community service                                                                   
would  be done  through  the  schools, hopefully  offering  a                                                                   
variety of opportunities.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Harris  asked about the  fiscal notes.   Mr. Schmitz                                                                   
pointed out  the public  defender's note  that MADD  does not                                                                   
agree  with.     The  original   bill  proposed  a   Class  B                                                                   
misdemeanor, which subsequently  was removed and however, the                                                                   
fiscal note did not change removing that language.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Harris   MOVED  to   zero  out  fiscal   note  #10.                                                                   
Representative Stoltze pointed  out for the record that it is                                                                   
the opinion  of MADD that action  would be appropriate.   Ms.                                                                   
Cashen acknowledged  that entire court system  could use more                                                                   
staff,  however,  SB  224  would   not  increase  the  Public                                                                   
Defender's  workload to  require  another  person.   Co-Chair                                                                   
Harris stated  that the  reality is,  the public defender  is                                                                   
required by the court to represent  those people and that the                                                                   
agency  could  come  back  to  the  Legislature  through  the                                                                   
supplemental  budget request.   He maintained  that  he would                                                                   
rather face  the supplemental later  than to fund it  at this                                                                   
time.                                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
LINDA   WILSON,  (TESTIFIED   VIA   TELECONFERENCE),   DEPUTY                                                                   
DIRECTOR,  ALASKA  PUBLIC  DEFENDER   AGENCY,  DEPARTMENT  OF                                                                   
ADMINISTRATION,  ANCHORAGE,  commented  on the  fiscal  note.                                                                   
Currently, when a  person is charged with a  movack, they get                                                                   
their license  revoked.   Requiring mandatory community  work                                                                   
service  and increased  graduated  fines,  will require  more                                                                   
prosecution in  court.  For  a first minor consuming  charge,                                                                   
there would be no license action  as there would be no tie in                                                                   
consuming  with   the  driving.    In  the   past,  when  the                                                                   
legislature changed  the statute concerning  minor consuming,                                                                   
calling it  an infraction, the  minor was not to  be entitled                                                                   
to a  court appointed  council.  In  2001, when that  statute                                                                   
changed, there were  58 cases charged with a  public defender                                                                   
for minor consuming.   That number has mushroomed  in 2003 to                                                                   
892.   There  are  three  statutes  now that  have  graduated                                                                   
sanctions and mandatory community work service.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Enactment  of the  legislation would  provide entitlement  to                                                                   
court appointed council  and a jury trial and  will require a                                                                   
fair  amount  of  public  defenders.    Changing  it  from  a                                                                   
misdemeanor to an infraction does  not negate the entitlement                                                                   
to a court appointed attorney  or a jury trial because of the                                                                   
mandatory community  work service that  is part of  the bill.                                                                   
She  stressed that  they will  need at  least one  additional                                                                   
attorney to handle the request  and she urged that the fiscal                                                                   
note not be zeroed out.                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  Williams   OBJECTED  to   zeroing  out   the  note.                                                                   
Representative Croft  added his objection to  zeroing out the                                                                   
note, stressing that  it would not be an  appropriate action.                                                                   
He  noted the  usual large  supplemental  requests from  that                                                                   
agency, which  does not provide  an accurate picture  of that                                                                   
agency's on-going  needs.  Fiscal notes are  provided to give                                                                   
the  State an  understanding of  the  costs for  implementing                                                                   
legislation.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair Williams  WITHDREW his  OBJECTION to the  amendment.                                                                   
There being NO further OBJECTION, the note was zeroed out.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative Foster MOVED to  report CS SB 224 (STA) out of                                                                   
Committee  with  individual  recommendations   and  with  the                                                                   
accompanying fiscal notes.  There  being NO OBJECTION, it was                                                                   
so ordered.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CS  SB 224  (STA)  was reported  out  of Committee  with  "no                                                                   
recommendation" and  with zero note  #5 by the  Department of                                                                   
Public  Safety, indeterminate  note  #6 by  the Alaska  Court                                                                   
System, zero  note #7  by the Department  of Health  & Social                                                                   
Services, zero  note #8 by the Department  of Administration,                                                                   
indeterminate  note #9  by the  Department of  Administration                                                                   
and  a  new note  by  the  House Finance  Committee  for  the                                                                   
Department of Administration.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                

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